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Roseman
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Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dao, tried as you explained and came up within your numbers you gave, so I assume my machine is "OK" roseman.
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks Dao, I will try what you said.
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

BTW, you guys should test the health of your machine with this simple test. After your computer has been running for a while (10 - 20 minutes). Let it stay idle and test it as follows

1/ Type combination of keys Ctrl-Alt-Del. This will show your Task Manager (on Windows Xp)

2/ Click on the tab performance. You should see that the meter go donw to 0 - 3% when you do nothing. Anything higher than that, your machine is doing work for the malware/adware or other hidden software that have got in without your permission. Also look at "Available memory". You should still have at least 250000. Otherwise your machine is very low on memory.

3/ Click on tab "Processes". Then click on column CPU. You should see "System Idle Process" at 96% - 99%. If it is lower than that, the processes right below it are the offending processes as they are doing things (probably for the spammers and viruses)
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

To all users, from roseman, at this present time, being 7.25pm.Things "SEEM" to be ok. Have played all day to see what might have changed, up till now had problems, finishing loading of pages.
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Rosemeadow, you problems sound like you have very old equipment and windows set up. As you plug a different monitor in you will also need to adjust the screen size. There are control on the monitor for you to do this. You will need to learn how to do this. The problem with password is a problem with your browser failing to remember password. It may also have problem with cookies. One thing I can suggest as a quick fix is to go to this menu Tools->Internet options then select the security tab. Set the security level to "Default". As different software tries to adjust the security setting of the browser. You end it up witha ll sort of weirdness. Also try to download Firefox browser and use it. It's a good Internet browser. You may see all the problems disappear magically for a while. When you get a newer computer or if you install Windows fresh again, I think all the problems will disappear with your normal Internet Explorer.

Roseman, your computer is surely having a memory problem. It was Ok when you bought that computer to have 512Mb RAM. But as time passed, Microsoft fixed up a lot of problems and software items have blown up to huge size, you will now need minimum 750MB to run well even if your system is kept clean a nd well-tuned. Generally you will need at least 1024MB to run well if you don't keep you machine tidy. At that kind of speed for your processor and memory you urgently need to tune your machine and stop all the stuff that are not supposed to be running. they are loaded in every time you install software (and you have no idea where they are). Here is a handy hint, you go to Start->Run, then type in msconfig. Click OK. Then look for the Tab "Start up". You will find that you can disable half of the stuff in there that were loaded in without your permission. You should also think about adding another 512MB RAM or perhaps wait for a chance to buy a newer system (Ebay is the way to go). Generally you can get a modern computer like a DC7700 as a refurbished from Ebay for $400 (80GB HD, 1024MB RAM and a dual core processor). It would be about 4 times faster than your current system. Another possibility for you is to reinstall Windows. It will also get rid of many problems.

A very useful thing to help fixing your Windows set up by a machete method is to use Run->Accessories->System tools->System Restore. It allow syou to go back in time to a time when you remember that your system was fine. Then you reinstall only teh software you added since that time. Back up your data first before you attempt to do this thing!
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Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dao, and others, that last post was not me, rather my other half, Carole, looking as she does at the forum if I am doing something else. For me Dao the experience is, computer about 7yrs old, 1.7Ghz intel celeron processor, 512 ram, 40.0gb hard drive, other things that do not matter I think, intel graphics. From my side, I open things in the same way, home page, topics, propagation, wild rose cafe or what might have been added new, then I go to general discussions. I get that OK, Then I click on one of the new posts, normally from the earliest to the latest. I get the page loading bar happening, then it stops at about 3 parts along. Tried going from start to that point again and same thing happens. Only over the weekend I tried the refresh button and got what I would think was your program, all language in black and white, after a little while it went to the discussion page I wanted. For me this was happening before the migration but not as much and as long. David
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dao, Sorry still problems for me. It has taken about 3 hours to get to the rose discussion page to come up. Once again sorry, I am sure once the gremlins have been eliminated it will be great. David
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I have just tuned in after some time not coming on here and find that I'm accessing this forum at lightening speed now. Well done Dao. PS I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop with Intel Centrino Duo which is 17 months old now. I find sites like SMH.com & Realestate.Com are as slow as all get out still, so you certainly have tweeked your site to perform like its got rocket fuel in it.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Now that worked perfectly that time.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I also find I can only really go where I want by using the yellow side pannel.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

When I was posting this last message it came up 'this page canot be displayed '. The only way I can find that my message has been posted is by going back to the discussion forumn, not by moving forward. I am guessing that your system or the sattelite is too quick for my percentage gauge, but I thought it worked fine at 'Garden Delights'. I will try it again there latter.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hi Dao, I have been loading roses on this morning. Firstly, I have hooked up back to my bigger monitor, but for some reason this makes it that I can't see the edge of the page so I can't see the exit corner box but can make it work if I click over just pass the page. So I am sorry I must have got that bit wrong about not being able to get back, probably because I clicked it too many times and went too far back. There is a computer technician that works and lives on our road. He helped me before with the same problem, but I forgot what I had to do, so I will ask him again.
The photos come up good in the letter links today. Its fanstastic actually, especially as I don't have photos to load yet and I don't want to until I get my own photos. I am learning more about my rose I have for sale by going through and looking at the Helpmefind site and the Rose Echange photo ( if there is one, I can't wait to add a few of Shropshire Lass, one from Lynette's rose garden and one from mine. )
But these are the questions I have now. It keeps changing my password so I need to reload it everytime I list a rose. Is that right ? That could have been causing alot of the trouble. Even then though, I wait for it to load my new rose I want to 'add' but it only goes half way on the moving percentage thing. So I go back, a few times it has already been added or or says it has already been added before. Other times I have to click the 'add' again, and even come back and click 'add' again before it does work. I will go back and try again now. I deleted some of the ones I have listed so I could put them in a order, e.g. Ramblers first.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I could not even imagine that you guys have that kind of problems. This is very odd. At home, I am fine even when I was on 33kps dial up even though it's a bit slow. That 10 years old machine of mine is only 700Mhz but it works just fine. But people has always been saying that any computers old or new that is being used by a computer professional ways seem to work fine. So it's hard to say.

After sometimes, without proper computer software maintenance, even a fast computer become bogged down with virus, malware, adware, spyware, ... to the level where they are just too unstable and slow to work properly.

On the issue that your computers work well with other sites, I am at a lost here. The only difference is that roseexchange offers a lot of images and a fancier forum interface. If I change the interface back to a simple text based kind then it would be faster but would be a bit boring. Three years ago I tested the site with an old computer 7 years, modem at 33mps and a CPU only 700Mhz. I thought that was ancient enough, and if that worked well then there is no problem for any one. Now I still test using that machine (but on broadband) and it works wonderfully, I would assume that a 10 years old machine like that is working like a charm, no one would have problem. But I am wrong!

Any one out there with a machine less than 5 years old (and is not a computer saavy person) experiencing similar problems?

Rosemeadow, on the catalogue, you are supposed to CLOSE the popup window (from clicking the rx and h and g links). Your current catalogue window stays on the screen at all time. These links are for saavy people to check on extra information on other sites only. From other places, you can always go back by the BACK button of the browser.

Eventually I will be able to get enough feedback from various people to make teh navigation more intuitive. For me it has become a second nature so I do not encounter problems that other people have.

This is a typical issue about trouble shooting. People report phantom problems that computer professionals never seem to be able to reproduce. At home I cannot see any of the reported problems using old or new computer. But as people do see the problems, there must be some thing wrong somewhere.

I will need more feedbacks from people all over the places to get an idea what is going on. So please keep sending me more feedbacks about problems you have. Even if the problem is not a real problem at teh server side, I might be able to build a FAQ to advise people how to avoid them.
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Site still full of roadblocks for me Dao. Has taken me over an hour to get this far into the site this morn. At times hitting the refresh button helps to move from one page to another, at other times I just give up. When posting a message the site freezes and you think nothing has been posted so you retreat sulkily only to find later on that your pearls of wisdom have gotten through.
I'm on 3000mbs so shouldn't be any prob. No other worries on any other site.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

There still are promblems for me Dao. I have been trying out the Nursery site. I was going to list alot of names but there are bugs slowing me up heaps. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And sometimes it only half works, like half a name of a rose or half a photo at helpmefind when I go to that link.
Also you need to be able to go back to my catalogue from the RX photos to make it fast and effiecint, for me to list roses and for people looking at the roses I have and then looking at it in the helpmefind link and the other links. If you can make this all work it will be really brillant and I am previliged to be able to use it. It could be my computer too seeing its a old one, though I found it was fast at another forumn.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I just sent that email and it went so quick, so I take all that last post back, except about the lost emails.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

My posting doesn't look like it is working, stopping at about 50%, but I give up and found that it had actually worked. Also its slow going moving around here sometimes and not other times, I think going through the side menu works and not the above 'Rose Echange' and 'Rose General Discussions'. I have just been connected to the Satellite, so I need to to change my email address with you all. I nevwer though to change my email address for a bit. So I am sorry if anyone sent me a email as they would be lost now, I think.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks Judy, that will be very good. I have good soil so I just stick mine in the ground. I will start listing the roses I think I will have in my catalogue in the Rose Nursery section. I could send you about 10 different ones, the postage won't be much as there are only baby roses and I will cover that.
Dao, could we start having a regular chat night ? I found I could get into the chatroom today but couldn't type anything there.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Karen,
If you want to test them in the tropics, pick me. I will start getting a bed ready.
cheers
Judy
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

The migration completed very late last night. The site was supposed to be extremely slow all the way to yesterday afternoon because the transfer of data swamped the little bandwidth out of the old machine. But now I bet the speed is much better. The network bandwidth on the new computer is nearly 10x and the computing power is 6x. If it is slow now, it's more likely the local ISP hub. I am accessing from home via normal Telstra ADSL at 1500Mbs. It's lightening fast for me. Loading a big picture takes 1 second.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I am having the same trouble Larry. I thought it was my computer. David.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Hi Dao. Genuinely appreciate all your efforts and am thankful indeed for this site but for me over the past week it has been excruciatingly slow to load and moving between pages a nightmare. I am on ultra high speed cable and this is the only site which I have trouble with. Several times in total frustration I've given up trying to open the site.
Not a whinge - as I said I appreciate all you do - but would really love some ease of access
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Good on you Dao,thanks for your efforts, wish I had your computer skills. I for one am grateful for the work you do keeping the site up and running.

I am starting to get a feel for the older roses thanks mainly to some of the people posting and of course the site.
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

The rose registery is handy tool for people to store the names of all roses they have. This allows others to track down what available among members of the site. A rose grower can list all roses on offer allowing people to see. People can contact by sending private messages

http://roseexchange.biz/roseexchange/registry.html

It's not being used much at this moment. I think it's excellent for tracking roses to swap or ask for cuttings.

I have done a fair bit of reformatting and cleaning up various parts of the site. Hoepfully it will looks cleaner. We now need to build up some more content.
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

You bet I will have some roses for sale ! Thankyou for giving me the opportunity to do so, Dao.
I was talking to a lady the other day who I sold some potted own roots to a few years ago. She is very, very happy with how they have grown and intends to buy some more from me this Spring. The ladies eyes actually lighted up when she started talking about the roses she had got from me, made me feel pretty good.
I was wondering if all the people here on the Rose Exchange would help me with a experiment. I want to see how the very young own roots take travelling in the mail, and then trasplanting into a new enviroment. I want to send all the regular Australian posters here a few baby own root roses in the mail in exchange for each person growing them in their garden for me and reporting over time how they go. It would be only roses that each person desired from the list of roses I will have available.
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

You are to be congratulated for the work you put in Dao. We all owe you big time for supporting our habit like this.
Cheers
Judy
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I don't know how much faster it feels out there but for me it feels very fast. This computer can do work between 3 - 10 times faster than the old one (depending on the kind of work). With a lot of capacity available, I think people should try to load up more pictures. I checked on the traffic, and the last few months have been very good. The mount of traffic has doubled over same time last year.

I think next Spring rosemeadow will have some roses to offer. And that may also bring more traffic.
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Dao, Thank you for keeping this site up and running. -Alee
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I owe you for this site, somehow,thank you, roseman.
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Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

The site is now running on a new computer. It is roughly 6 times faster than the previous old junk. People with broadband will especially feel the difference. There might be some issues and unfixed bugs that show up occasionally. Let me know if that happens. This hardware upgrade should keep the site happy for another 3-5 years.

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