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Rosemeadow
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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Cute baby Bemo. I hope I will be having some rose seedling babies next Spring.
Tasv, I was sorry to here you lost most of your seedlings.
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Tasv
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Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I see you sow your seed in a peat plug Bemo... I must try this next time....
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Bemo
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

thanks all for your audience.

At the same time last year seedlings have been chilled outside at nearly -20°C, the first seedling 2009 has germinated. The seed trays I've saved on time inside, because the temperature in the garage has also fallen dramatically.

here is the little "Rosenprofessor":


regards Bemo
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Rosemeadow
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

What great rose seedlings Bemo and Tasv. I can't wait to see if I can breed some rose gems like you both have. Also thankyou for letting me know about this other great section on Helpmefind. I have been not involved here lately because I have been working through the Treloar's 2007 catalogue hybred teas, new and older roses, and looking at each of these roses on helpmefind to find the best ones to buy this winter for my garden. They have nearly all these roses listed, and nearly all have photos and some comments on performance. What a fanstastic way to research roses before buying any roses, so you hopefully end up getting only the best roses.
But I certainly have been missing out this great post here, till now anyway. Its great its here for me to catch up on now.
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Tasv
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Deb Kelly (AKA Cree) was telling me that there are conventions in naming unknown old roses to avoid the incidence of releasing and naming roses that have already been released and avoiding the case of having multiple study names (names given to unknown roses so we have something to refer to them as - a working name). The convention seems to be to use the location name from where the rose was found and then adding the letters ROR after it so that everyone knows it is a renamed old rose. Maybe RR could be used for an unknown modern rose. I know this is hard when the rose comes from a market... maybe the location of the market can be used or the name of the market or some other inanimate object that can be used to help trace it back to its origin... people's names are no good (mostly) because they move around etc... (unless they have died and then positions of headstones in cememtaries can be used) maybe something like Paddy's Market Rose RR. So it's definately worth propagating but as far as naming it and releasing it I think copies should be sent out to experts so they may assist you in identifying it and in the end if you decide to do anything with it the letters ROR or RR should be used to signify the rose may well indeed have been released some time ago but is, to date unidentified and this gives us some way to identify it in the mean time.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Tasv, I have a wonderful light pink thornless HT that I have not been able to track down. I bought it from a flea market years ago. My current copy is completely thornless. The entire bush may have an odd stem with 1 thorn on it once in a while. I wonder that it's a sport of another smooth rose that just lost the thorns. Is it worth it to do something about it so that others can enjoy it? It's rare to have a HT that is vigorous, beautiful, good fragrant, tolerate shade and fight diseases well.
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Bemo
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

@tasv:
it looks exceptional and is well named

regards Bemo
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Tasv
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Done! http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=2.59095.0&tab=1
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Tasv
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks Bemo,

I've been a member of HMF for some time now but usually only submit photos (http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/guest.php?tab=4)... I've followed your instructions and have asked if a listing could be made for 'Kindred Ice'. Thanks again :-)
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Bemo
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

indeed, there is no descendant for green ice. One reason more to list the rose at HMF.
1st you have to register. Next, use the 'share Knowledge/experience' buttom and ask them to list the rose under your name. Give also a discrption of the plant in the usual way:
Name:
Class:
Availability:
aka:
ARS Reg:
Origin:
Bloom:
Habit:
Parentage:

I am curious about it.

about Witte Wederhex: seems to be very fertile ( many anthers).Will breed with it this summmer

regards
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Tasv
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Witte Wederhex has a lovely colour. Is it a good breeder too? I was going to ask.. how do you get listings on HMF. I have a 'Green Ice' seedling that I wanted to list as it seems to be the only known descendant of this rose (for now... I noticed my 'Green Ice' is forming loads of OP hips this year for some strange reason).
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Tasv
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Yes... hmmmm... trying to develop equatorial roses

I'm actually going to try direct sowing them in a prepared bed outside this year... hopefully this will address the overheating problem and will also result in a superior root system developing. I'll stratify them indoors and when I see the first germinants I'll sow them in a bed in my back paddock...
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Bemo
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

banned
that sounds not good. May be somme little tasmanian devils on you mainbord?

normally everybody can read the most of the contents of the forum without registration. The content of the galerie is also free for all.So what happend?
must be your IP! If you use a proxy or an anonymity software switch it off and try the link below again.

If it will no work you ca see some of my 2007 babies here: http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=7.11101&tab=2

as I can see, you are selecting your crosses for hot conditions. Have you ever thought about automatic greehouse windows?

LG Bemo
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Tasv
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I can't see them. Do you need to register to see them? My German isn't good enough to understand it though the google translation tells me I have been banned even when I try to register :-( You don't want our high temperatures. I just cooked ALL of my seedlings for the year except two... didn't open the greenhouse in time and lost the lot :-(
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Bemo
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Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

good morning to the other side of the world.

@Roseman:the roses are all bred by myself, only Pembertons Moonlight has been lost in the album.
Mme Germaine was also my favorite rose but it does not survive the 1st winter. I have still a backup of it, which is not growing very well. Next Sommer I will do my first grafting and will set it on a multiflora rootstock.Have to see how it works
The listings in the HMF database you will find by searching about the Name Mme Germaine e.g.

<ot> last night it was very frosty here. The "weathermans" are forecasting less than -20°C for the next week. So, father frost will do the selection of my ssedlings for me
wish you could give some degrees of yours to us.

LG

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Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Bemo, have just looked at your post. Wonderful roses. The last three of "Mme Germaine" are lovely. Have you bred all of these yourself. The other question is what are they listed under on HMF, again thanks for the photo's.
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Bemo
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Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I do as Rosemann recommended and show you some of my 2007/2008 Seedlings.
Because the roses are still listed in a german forum It's easier to give you the link:

http://forum.planten.de/galerie/v/user/Spatenpauli/

some of the named roses are also listed at HMF.

hope you enjoy

Bemo
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Tasv
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Seedlings have started to come up. These are from open pollinated Frau Dagmar Hastrup. Pollen parent could be anything at the National Rose Garden at Longford, Tasmania. Seedlings are looking distinctly rugose already :-)

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Simonauv/Garden/known%20roses/My%20Roses /fdhseedling5.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Simonauv/Garden/known%20roses/My%20Roses /fdhseedling3.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Simonauv/Garden/known%20roses/My%20Roses /fdhseedling1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Simonauv/Garden/known%20roses/My%20Roses /fdhseedling4.jpg

New rose leaves look so nice and fresh :-) These guys probably won't flower for two or three years yet.
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